Saturday, September 27, 2003
A Conversation About The Pianist
Greek487: i wonder if we need hardship like that in our lives to really appreciate life
Greek487: it totally changes your perspective on things
Greek487: i was thinking about that during the movie
Greek487: you know, a little inconvenience, a little hunger, a little depravation
Polkaprincessa: i know waht you mean
Greek487: could it be applied to daily life you think?
Polkaprincessa: that of an extreme? no
Polkaprincessa: i mean there are hardships everyday
Polkaprincessa: people die, people divorce..etc
Greek487: i wouldn't call them hardships
Greek487: oh, you mean like that
Greek487: a little limitation of freedom
Polkaprincessa: the holocaust...was a tradgedy
Polkaprincessa: and sure it will affect some people TREMENDOUSLY....
Polkaprincessa: but there will still be others who wont care
Polkaprincessa: bc its not personal to them
Greek487: i wonder what could be applied though
Greek487: i'm placing you under house arrest renee
Greek487: lol
Polkaprincessa: ohhh are you now?
Greek487: uh huh
Greek487: plus, no sex for 40 days
Greek487: lol
Polkaprincessa: yeah, ok
Polkaprincessa: right...DO YOU WANT ME TO LIVE???
Greek487: hey, by the way, that's how the church many times sells fasting
Greek487: and self-abnegation
Greek487: hm...i wonder
Polkaprincessa: seriously...
Polkaprincessa: i dont fast
Greek487: people have gone on hunger strikes for causes they believe in
Polkaprincessa: i am like the worst catholic ever
Greek487: i used to fast when i was a kid
Greek487: i do not now
Polkaprincessa: i mean ...whats the point??
Polkaprincessa: we should eat regularly everyday...we should not overeat
Polkaprincessa: and we should understand the importance of food
Polkaprincessa: and be grateful that we even have it
Polkaprincessa: and fasting ...meaning not eating meat on fridays during lent...DOES NOT DO THE TRICK
Polkaprincessa: and as far as hungar strikes...id like to strike those people over the head....do they understand the harm they are doing to their bodies? i have strong positions on things...but im not about to starve myself and do harm to my body......i believe in it...and starving yourself is not going to do something about it.....action...taking action...that will do something about what you believe in
Polkaprincessa: i have a strong belief that my chemistry homework is hard...but me starving myself is not going to help me understand it....studying will
Greek487: wow
Greek487: hehe.....strong argument
Greek487: i agree
Greek487: i think the point is that here and there a little self-denial is a good thing
Greek487: a little intentional inconvenience
Greek487: i don't know, it's hard for me to explain
Greek487: it also gives you a great sense of self-control
Polkaprincessa: i know..without one ..you must master another
Polkaprincessa: or rely on another
Polkaprincessa: which is why blindfolds are so successful in sex...without sight..you rely on other senses
Greek487: lol.....lol
Greek487: what a tie-in, nice
Polkaprincessa: yup, i do good work
Greek487: what i'm saying can also make you feel more alive
Polkaprincessa: i dont know about making you feel more alive....expand
Greek487: ok
Polkaprincessa: k this should be good
Greek487: 1 you'll surprise yourself with how much you could handle
Greek487: 2 you'll feel as if you transcend your material being
Polkaprincessa: oh ghandi
Polkaprincessa: ok
Greek487: 3 it will awaken capacities within you that you never knew you had
Greek487: 4 look at military training and preparation
Greek487: again, this shouldn't be a continual situation
Polkaprincessa: if you think the military is a symbol of greatness..im sorry
Greek487: constant deprivation
Greek487: look at even sports training
Polkaprincessa: yeah...until they snap
Greek487: it's part of the training
Greek487: 'oh ghandi....you sex machine'
Greek487: lol
Polkaprincessa: i think lessening something is better than depriving yourself of it
Greek487: explain
Polkaprincessa: when you decrease your intake of something...when you do get it..you are less likely to take enormous advantage of it
Polkaprincessa: lets say chocolate...yes i am a woman....if i dont eat it for months...i will binge on it...which is BAD
Polkaprincessa: but if i just eat a little a week....then i wont binge on it
Greek487: we have everything but we DON'T have these hardships or great challenges
Polkaprincessa: everyone is differnet in their challenges...some have more than others
Greek487: and sometimes we have too few
Polkaprincessa: as far as i go...i have plenty of hardships
Polkaprincessa: each is hard in its own way
Greek487: maybe that's why so many americans are sooo FAT
Greek487: i'm talking about physical hardships
Polkaprincessa: i think its partly bc they're like...i will diet, i will diet...and then....they crash and binge ...big time
Polkaprincessa: which spikes the insulin
Polkaprincessa: which aides in fat production
Polkaprincessa: storage
Greek487: exercise should be re-named
Greek487: guess what it should be called
Polkaprincessa: and...they think that starvation is THE WAY to lose weight...well when they dont eat....their body goes into starvation mode and the next thing they eat..is not properly digested and stored as fat
Polkaprincessa: UMM.....EATING?
Greek487: PHYSICAL HARDSHIP
Polkaprincessa: no...if americans hear hard...they wond do it
Greek487: THAT'S EXACTLY MY POINT
Greek487: THAT'S WHY EXERCISING IS SUCH A FAILURE
Greek487: THEY TRY TO SUGAR COAT IT AND WHEN PEOPLE REALIZE THEY HAVE TO SWEAT AND SUFFER A LITTLE BIT
Greek487: THEY GIVE UP
Polkaprincessa: right
Greek487: MAN!
Greek487: <----- shouting at his computer
Greek487: hehe
Polkaprincessa: are you really???
Polkaprincessa: psycho!
Polkaprincessa: jk
Greek487: lol
Greek487: i'm a fuckin genius
Greek487: mannnnnnnnn
Polkaprincessa: no...read above about my hunger strike...and then tell me who the genious is
Greek487: i'm on a hunger strike right now
Polkaprincessa: ameicans have short attention spans.....running is too reptitious for them
Greek487: your argument obviiously didn't persuade me
Polkaprincessa: well i guess i will just have to strike you in the head then
Greek487: i wonder if we need hardship like that in our lives to really appreciate life
Greek487: it totally changes your perspective on things
Greek487: i was thinking about that during the movie
Greek487: you know, a little inconvenience, a little hunger, a little depravation
Polkaprincessa: i know waht you mean
Greek487: could it be applied to daily life you think?
Polkaprincessa: that of an extreme? no
Polkaprincessa: i mean there are hardships everyday
Polkaprincessa: people die, people divorce..etc
Greek487: i wouldn't call them hardships
Greek487: oh, you mean like that
Greek487: a little limitation of freedom
Polkaprincessa: the holocaust...was a tradgedy
Polkaprincessa: and sure it will affect some people TREMENDOUSLY....
Polkaprincessa: but there will still be others who wont care
Polkaprincessa: bc its not personal to them
Greek487: i wonder what could be applied though
Greek487: i'm placing you under house arrest renee
Greek487: lol
Polkaprincessa: ohhh are you now?
Greek487: uh huh
Greek487: plus, no sex for 40 days
Greek487: lol
Polkaprincessa: yeah, ok
Polkaprincessa: right...DO YOU WANT ME TO LIVE???
Greek487: hey, by the way, that's how the church many times sells fasting
Greek487: and self-abnegation
Greek487: hm...i wonder
Polkaprincessa: seriously...
Polkaprincessa: i dont fast
Greek487: people have gone on hunger strikes for causes they believe in
Polkaprincessa: i am like the worst catholic ever
Greek487: i used to fast when i was a kid
Greek487: i do not now
Polkaprincessa: i mean ...whats the point??
Polkaprincessa: we should eat regularly everyday...we should not overeat
Polkaprincessa: and we should understand the importance of food
Polkaprincessa: and be grateful that we even have it
Polkaprincessa: and fasting ...meaning not eating meat on fridays during lent...DOES NOT DO THE TRICK
Polkaprincessa: and as far as hungar strikes...id like to strike those people over the head....do they understand the harm they are doing to their bodies? i have strong positions on things...but im not about to starve myself and do harm to my body......i believe in it...and starving yourself is not going to do something about it.....action...taking action...that will do something about what you believe in
Polkaprincessa: i have a strong belief that my chemistry homework is hard...but me starving myself is not going to help me understand it....studying will
Greek487: wow
Greek487: hehe.....strong argument
Greek487: i agree
Greek487: i think the point is that here and there a little self-denial is a good thing
Greek487: a little intentional inconvenience
Greek487: i don't know, it's hard for me to explain
Greek487: it also gives you a great sense of self-control
Polkaprincessa: i know..without one ..you must master another
Polkaprincessa: or rely on another
Polkaprincessa: which is why blindfolds are so successful in sex...without sight..you rely on other senses
Greek487: lol.....lol
Greek487: what a tie-in, nice
Polkaprincessa: yup, i do good work
Greek487: what i'm saying can also make you feel more alive
Polkaprincessa: i dont know about making you feel more alive....expand
Greek487: ok
Polkaprincessa: k this should be good
Greek487: 1 you'll surprise yourself with how much you could handle
Greek487: 2 you'll feel as if you transcend your material being
Polkaprincessa: oh ghandi
Polkaprincessa: ok
Greek487: 3 it will awaken capacities within you that you never knew you had
Greek487: 4 look at military training and preparation
Greek487: again, this shouldn't be a continual situation
Polkaprincessa: if you think the military is a symbol of greatness..im sorry
Greek487: constant deprivation
Greek487: look at even sports training
Polkaprincessa: yeah...until they snap
Greek487: it's part of the training
Greek487: 'oh ghandi....you sex machine'
Greek487: lol
Polkaprincessa: i think lessening something is better than depriving yourself of it
Greek487: explain
Polkaprincessa: when you decrease your intake of something...when you do get it..you are less likely to take enormous advantage of it
Polkaprincessa: lets say chocolate...yes i am a woman....if i dont eat it for months...i will binge on it...which is BAD
Polkaprincessa: but if i just eat a little a week....then i wont binge on it
Greek487: we have everything but we DON'T have these hardships or great challenges
Polkaprincessa: everyone is differnet in their challenges...some have more than others
Greek487: and sometimes we have too few
Polkaprincessa: as far as i go...i have plenty of hardships
Polkaprincessa: each is hard in its own way
Greek487: maybe that's why so many americans are sooo FAT
Greek487: i'm talking about physical hardships
Polkaprincessa: i think its partly bc they're like...i will diet, i will diet...and then....they crash and binge ...big time
Polkaprincessa: which spikes the insulin
Polkaprincessa: which aides in fat production
Polkaprincessa: storage
Greek487: exercise should be re-named
Greek487: guess what it should be called
Polkaprincessa: and...they think that starvation is THE WAY to lose weight...well when they dont eat....their body goes into starvation mode and the next thing they eat..is not properly digested and stored as fat
Polkaprincessa: UMM.....EATING?
Greek487: PHYSICAL HARDSHIP
Polkaprincessa: no...if americans hear hard...they wond do it
Greek487: THAT'S EXACTLY MY POINT
Greek487: THAT'S WHY EXERCISING IS SUCH A FAILURE
Greek487: THEY TRY TO SUGAR COAT IT AND WHEN PEOPLE REALIZE THEY HAVE TO SWEAT AND SUFFER A LITTLE BIT
Greek487: THEY GIVE UP
Polkaprincessa: right
Greek487: MAN!
Greek487: <----- shouting at his computer
Greek487: hehe
Polkaprincessa: are you really???
Polkaprincessa: psycho!
Polkaprincessa: jk
Greek487: lol
Greek487: i'm a fuckin genius
Greek487: mannnnnnnnn
Polkaprincessa: no...read above about my hunger strike...and then tell me who the genious is
Greek487: i'm on a hunger strike right now
Polkaprincessa: ameicans have short attention spans.....running is too reptitious for them
Greek487: your argument obviiously didn't persuade me
Polkaprincessa: well i guess i will just have to strike you in the head then